“Comparing your best to their worst” It's all just a slider, where you want one comparison to start and one to end. Everyone is tweaking the positioning sliders to suit what they're trying to argue. That's why without some basic shared realities we can't be stable on common ground.
How about 10% of “manosphere” is bad? 25% 33%?
How about 7% of “feminists” have sinister motives, 15% 33%?
Bad people gonna bad. Greedy people gonna greed, power driven people gonna play. They use the power and culture structures of society for their advantage.
You've hoodwinked into believing there's good over here and bad over there and forever seperate the two. Good can attract the bad and the bad can seduce the good.
It's easy to point to a problem. It's hard to improve a situation. Here's my sincere attempt (a private activity) - “what's their name?”. Name people in your circles, in your spheres. Not the infamous outliers, your world. ‘Men are like this…’ What's their name. ‘Women do this…’ What's their name? ‘Society tells me…’ What's their name? 'I heard that...' What's their name? 'People are so mean...' What's their name?
If you can name people and they know your name, that problem is very real and it's at home. But if you can't name any… …